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Chesley Pryor or Shadrick Pryor: One Person or Two, Please?

A blog is an evolving thing, much like a family tree. So I felt the need to circle back and look at the son of Edward Pryor of Overton County again. The last time I mentioned Chesley Allen Pryor or Shadrick Pryor in a post was 2013. That was quite a long time ago.

Edward was born in 1822 in TN to William Pryor and Spicy Taylor. It’s speculated that he was named for Spicy’s father Edmund Taylor.  Edward’s line is ripe with questions — were all of his children fathered by him? After all, some were born while he was hospitalized out of state during the Civil War and he and his wife divorced several years after his return.

Both AncestryDNA and male Y-DNA testing has led to the probable conclusion that Edward’s younger brother Chesley was “adopted” and not a Pryor or Taylor at all.

So, I didn’t easily jump to the conclusion that Chesley Allen Pryor and Shadrick C Pryor were the same person. It’s a pain to conclude that someone with different names is the same guy.

1850 Census: Edward and his wife were in Clinton County, KY. They had a one year old named Shedrick.

Then there’s no mention of Shadrick on the 1860 census nor 1870 census. In 1860 Edward and his wife Eliza were living in two different households. Eliza and two young daughters were living with the Gunters. Edward was living on his own. In 1870 they were under one roof again, however there was no son in the household.

The 1890 census for Pickett County, TN seems to explain where Shadrick Pryor was during part of this time. He was serving in the military: Private, Co. D, 1st TN Inf. If he was born in 1849 per the 1850 Census he would have been a young teen at the time of the Civil War. He married Miss Sarah Walker in Overton County in 1872.

The 1850 Census, a 1872 marriage record, and the 1890 Veterans Census are the only three records of Shadrick.

Chesley Allen Pryor, sometimes recorded as just Allen, appears on the 1880 through 1920 censuses. I obtained the Scott County, TN death records for both Chesley and his wife.

Scott Co., TN. Village of Robbins
Registration Dist. No. 47702. File No. 8
C. A. Pryor
Male, white, marital status blank, born Sept. 16 1850.
Age 73 yrs., 6 mos., 15 days.
Occupation: farmer.
Birthplace Tennessee
Father Edd Pryor, born in Tennessee
Mother Don’t Know
Informant: J. R. Pryor of Robbins, TN
Date of death: March 14, 1924
Cause of death “Don’t Know”
Place of Burial: Cross Roads. Date of Burial March 16, 1924.
Undertaker: J. R. Pryor, Robins TN.

Scott Co., TN. Village of Robbins
Registration Dist. No. 47702. File No. 25
Katherine Pryor
Female, white, married, born 1850
Age 70
Occupation: housewife
Birthplace Overton Co., Tennessee
Father Robert Walker, born in Virginia
Mother Story, born in Tennessee
Informant: C.A. Pryor of Robbins, TN
Date of death: January 8, 1924
Cause of death Pulmonary Tuburclosis
Place of Burial: Black Creek. Date of Burial January 8, 1920
Undertaker: none stated.

Chesley’s death record ID’s his father as Edd (or Ed) Pryor.  His wife was a Walker which matches up with Overton County marriage. Perhaps the clue is in the 1890 Census where he was recorded as “Shade C”– Chesley was a middle name?

Will of Edmund Taylor: Fathter of Massey and Spicy Taylor Pryor

Will of Edmund Taylor, 1824 – Campbell Co., VA
(father in law of William Pryor of Overton Co., TN & John Pryor of Sumner Co., TN)
In the name of god, Amen. I Edward Taylor of the County of Campbell and State of Virginia, being sick and weak in body but of a sound mind and disposing memory for which I thank God and calling to mind the uncertainty of human life and being desirous to dispose of all such worldly estate as it hath pleased God to bless me with, I give and bequeath the same in the following that is to say in consideration of the love I bear towards my wife, Elizabeth, I give and bequeath unto her all my estate during her natural life after my just debts are paid, after that to be equally divided between all my children except Spicy and Massia, the wives of William and John PRYOR. I lend unto them their equal part during their natural life and after their death. I give it to their children in Testimony wereof (viz) I have herunto set my hand and seal this fifteenth day of July 1824. My wish is that Anderson Woodson Junr. to be my Executor.
Witnessed by Lefever Street, William B. Taylor, Charles Wright.
At a court held for Campbell Co., Nov 8, 1824, the within last will and testament of Edward Taylor, deceased, was produced in court proved by the oaths of Lefever Street and William B. Taylor witnesses, whose names are thereto subscribed and ordered to be recorded.
Teste. John Alexander CCC <Campbell County Clerk>

Note: Anderson Woodson md. Elizabeth Clarkson on 30/1/1818 in Campbell Co., VA. Anderson Woodson possibly the son of Robert Woodson and Rebecca PRYOR. Lefever Street appears on early tax lists in Sumner Co., TN.

Generations Shown in Pryor AncestryDNA Testing

Another observation came out of the Ancestry DNA. The first test submitted was for one of my kids. They were a willing subject and it seemed like a keen way to find out more about BOTH sides of their family tree. After a productive telephone chat with another researcher I decided to submit my own test.

What a difference a generation can make! My results included matches that weren’t even in my daughter’s results.

FTDA’s Family Finder autosomal test projects results back to 5 generations. AncestryDNA claims results may show results back to 8 generations, but their own graph shows how little common DNA they’re working with at that point. https://www.ancestry.com/dna/learn

One of the testers who descends from William and Spicy Pryor can claim them as their 5th great grandparents. They are separated by 7 generations. The hope of shedding light on their connection to earlier generations which may include kin of Edmund Taylor, Elizabeth Garrett, or any Pryors is quite slim.

There’s a couple ways to make AncestryDNA work for research.

Not just a concept from my results (you’ll hear others online make this recommendation). Test yourself AND also test your oldest relatives.

When looking at your results zero in on matching test who are the LEAST number of generations from your most distant relative you’re searching. For example, the test I mentioned above claims William and Spicy as their 5th great grandparents. Other kits claim them as 3rd and 4th great grandparents.

Ancestry rates their matches as Extremely High, High, Good and Moderate. I found that testers who were connected to a common 3rd great grandparent were “Extremely High” but when comparing to a tester who shared the same ancestor, but at the 5th great grandparent distance, our relationship was rated as “Good”. None of the results on my now long and slightly unwieldy chart were rated as “Moderate”.

So I pass on this cheeky advice: if you’re old or have an even older relative… test ’em!

 

 

Pryor and Taylor Marriages Cloud AncestryDNA Results

I’ve created a mega chart of Pryors from AncestryDNA kits. These are the Pryors in Sumner County and Overton County, TN. I will share what I’ve found in a few posts. I’m going to follow the same guidelines I used as admin of the male Y-DNA project through FTDNA– I won’t divulge test names, names of the testers, or other identifying info. I will refer to refer to dead people, most of whom passed more than 50 years ago.

A few years ago I started off with one test from a descendant of Allen L Pryor b. 1816 and tried to figure out how it matched with others. One of the worst methods of searching was searching by the surname Pryor– it picks up on all Pryors many of whom have no relationship to you (that’s me!).

Gradually more descendants of Allen L Pryor have tested. Tests matches include descendants of his children John Edward, Betty, Annie, and Lycurgus. What’s especially splendid is that Ancestry predicts the same generation distance as predicted through paper research.

Using the Autosomal Ancestry DNA test to match up people only goes so far because of all the marriages between lines. For instance, there’s a test that can matches to Allen’s projected sister Louisa. It’s helpful in matching her to the Pryor line until you look down the list of Louisa’s descendants and realize they married into the same Taylor family as the Taylor grandparents of both Allen and Louisa. This means the match can be for Pryors or Taylors or both.

There are now AncestryDNA tests for descendants of the children of William Pryor and Spicy Taylor who lived in Overton County. They match to tests on the Allen L Pryor side of the tree. However, Allen’s parents were John Pryor and Massey Taylor, the known sister of Spicy Taylor. So are the tests matching on the Pryors or Taylors or both?

See how the marriages between lines can cloud things?

 

 

 

 

 

Sumner and Overton Pryor Signatures

pryor-signatures-sumner-county

I dug deep into my stash of Pryor records and looked again at the lawsuit they were engaged in back in 1830’s in Sumner County, TN. Of interest… their signatures on the answer to the complaint. I think these are signatures because some state his/her mark when they were unable to sign.

William Pryor
Spicy Pryor
Massy Pryor – X her mark
Hezekiah Taylor
Jane Taylor – X her mark
David Taylor
Pleasant Taylor
Polly Taylor – X her mark
John Pryor – X his mark
Elizabeth Taylor – X her mark
Chesley Taylor – X his mark
Elizabeth Taylor Jun, by her guardian Hezekiah Taylor
Test (Witnesses)
Joel Pariss (Parish?)
Elizabeth Garrett Junr.

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